Showing posts with label Bailiff. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bailiff. Show all posts

Wednesday, 3 February 2016

The Bailiff's Chambers: Outside the Law













I sent a simple message for a freedom of information request recently, which was obviously topical:

"Please can you list events taking place on The People’s Park for which the Bailiff’s permission was given in 2013 and 2014 and 2015."

The reply I received was as follows:

Thank you for your Freedom of Information request of 28 January 2016 relation to People’s Park.

This request was made under the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011. The information requested, however, is not held by a department which is subject to the law but rests with the Bailiff’s Chambers which is not subject to the Law.

The information you have requested may be held by the parishes and so you might wish to send your information request in writing to: foi@parish.gov.je
or to: Parish FOI, East Wing, RJA & HS, Trinity, JE3 5JP

You can also find out more about making an FOI request to the parishes at www.parish.gov/foi

I have since sent the same request to the Parish FOE email address.

But is it right that the Bailiff’s Chambers should be outside the Freedom of Information Law?

After all, public events which take place are "by permission of the Bailiff", but now it appears we cannot ask for details on those events - or equally for a list of events refused with the reasons given.

It is clear that in the UK, the speaker and the events relating to that office, and even the speaker's costs - travel, entertainment etc - can be subject to a freedom of information request.

See, for example:
http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/offices/commons/speakers-office/speakers-publications/foi-request-on-speakers-expenditure/

Yet in Jersey, the Bailiff and the Bailiff's Chambers are not subject to the Jersey Freedom of Information Law.

Isn't that a loophole which should be plugged? Shouldn't we have a little more transparency on what our own speaker in the States does, especially in the 21st century?

Friday, 16 October 2015

Brothers in Faith













Reflecting on the conflict between Deputy Montfort Tadier, and the Bailiff, William Bailhache, it is worth reflecting on an earlier exchange in 2008:

Deputy G.P. Southern Here we are today debating that very thing. We are told there is no alternative. “Thank God there was an alternative last week” some people are saying. So we could safely…

The Bailiff: Deputy, I am not sure the expression “Thank God” in that context is an appropriate parliamentary expression.

Deputy G.P. Southern: Can I use the expression “Thank heaven,” Sir?

The Bailiff: You are invoking the deity.

Deputy G.P. Southern: May I use the expression “Thank heavens”?

The Bailiff: “Thank goodness.”

Deputy G.P. Southern: “Goodness,” all right. Thank goodness it was there a week ago

The Bailiff in question was Sir Philip Bailhache, brother of William. And we see here the same strange and almost puritanical religious belief which cannot even allow idioms such as “Thank God” to be used in a States Debate.

It is even more notable because the idiom was never taken as unacceptable when others were sitting in the chair, such as the Deputy Bailiff, Michael Birt, or the Greffier, Michael De La Haye:

In 2006, Senator Terry Le Main said: “When the Housing Committee met in the past it was nothing to sit all morning listening to hardship cases and every politician in this Assembly was involved in many of these cases. Thank God that has now past.”

The Deputy Bailiff did not call him up for inappropriate language.

Again in 2008, the Deputy Bailiff did not prevent Terry Le Main for saying: “Quite honestly, I have got my lovely house at home and most of you have got your lovely homes and thank God I can leave here at night and go in my home and close my door and live in decent comfort.”

In 2007, the Greffier did not bat an eyelid when Deputy Paul le Claire said: “Thank God, the Housing Minister does not close his doors at 5.30 p.m. because this was about 8.00 p.m. You will remember it well when I brought the lady down with me. She was crying her eyes out.”

And in 2009, the Greffier did not correct Deputy Southern for his language when he said: “Member of the States reason to think: “Well, could that happen to me, and if so, how would have I reacted?” or even to say: “Well, thank God it happened to him and not to me” in some cases.”

It is only Sir Philip Bailhache who reacted with extreme sensitivity to what is now just an expression of relief, which the dictionary will tell you is now as devoid of religious connotations as saying “Bless you” when someone sneezes, and has been for many years. Even when Shakespeare uses it in Much Ado About Nothing - "Yes I thank God, I am as honest as any man living, that is an old man, and no honester then I", it has little religious meaning.

The Deputy Bailiff of the time, Michael Birt, and the Greffier, Michael De La Haye did not take issue at all..

So perhaps it is not surprising that Sir Philip should not only take issue with “Thank God”, but on another occasion, reject the use of the word “Godforsaken”, again from Geoff Southern. Again, the word has become idiomatic, the the dictionary tells us that it was "Originally: (chiefly of a person) abandoned by God; consigned to evil ways, depraved, profligate. Subsequently: (esp. of a place) lacking any merit or attraction; desolate, dismal, dreary."

Sir Phillip's attitude, like that of his brother recently, seems curiously like that of the Puritans of the 17th century or, more locally, in Jersey, that of the severe Calvinists who took control after the Reformation; for they too had a very acute sensitivity to such phrases. Of course, back in the 17th century such idioms still had religious connotations which they have lost today.

Incidentally, such language as "Thank God" has become a commonplace in the House of Commons for many years, long predating even Sir Philip Bailhache.

Here are a few examples:

Examples of “Thank God”

HC Deb 14 May 1835 vol 27 cc1071-112

Dr. Lushington And I am speaking on that same subject. On this point, thank God, there can be no misunderstanding between us.

HC Deb 20 July 1914 vol 65 cc173-93

Mr. T. M. HEALY Thank God we have a House of Lords.

HC Deb 04 April 1913 vol 51 cc708-81

Mr. BURNS: The next point is the finance. The hon. Baronet opposite (Sir F. Banbury) is a financial expert and authority. Thank God, I am not.

HC Deb 10 February 1914 vol 58 cc53-152

Mr. LONG

The Angel of Death has, thank God, not been yet abroad in this dear land of ours.

HC Deb 13 April 1927 vol 205 cc385-517

Lieut.-Colonel MOORE-BRABAZON

We have still the Road Fund, thank God, intact, but he has gone very near doing away with it. Although the Chancellor of the Exchequer is capable of standing up, I think he is getting very wobbly on this particular point, urged on, no doubt, by the Treasury.

HC Deb 24 February 1927 vol 202 cc1965-2012

Mr. JAMES BROWN

People may scoff, the Sassenach may scoff, but it still, thank God itI remains true that the dearest thing to the heart of a Scotsman or a Scotswoman is independence. There is nothing they cherish more.

HC Deb 01 June 1927 vol 207 cc403-517

Sir ELLIS HUME-WILLIAMS: I often observe in this House that, when an hon. Member has forgotten what he is going to say, or cannot think of anything else, or wishes to rouse a little enthusiasm, he generally says, "Thank God, I am not a lawyer!" I have not heard the expression as yet during this Debate, but I confess there have been occasions when I have felt inclined to join in the thank-offering.

HC Deb 18 February 1927 vol 202 cc1275-361

Mr. BANKS

Mr. Cook, in a speech on 3rd June, said: "Thank God for Russia," and he added that there was a cheque for £270,000 received last week, that the Central Co-operative Societies in Russia had sent £40,000, that the Central Russian Union had sent £70,000, and so on.

HC Deb 17 March 1977 vol 928 cc635-766

Mr. Graham Page (Crosby)

I pay the hon. Gentleman the compliment of saying that I followed his argument right through. I thought he was very clear. I disagreed with every word of it.

Mr. Kinnock Thank God for that.

HC Deb 02 December 1975 vol 901 cc1609-45

Mr. Les Huckfield (Nuneaton)

I can only say that their policies have pretty well laid waste the whole of the industrial Midlands since they have been in Opposition. [HON. MEMBERS: "Oh."] Thank God they have not been in Government.

Mr. Spriggs Do not thank God. Thank the electors.

HC Deb 27 July 1977 vol 936 cc647-67

Mr. Norman Tebbit (Chingford)

However, time is a great healer and after a suitable interval for consideration the Liberals have got together somewhere in the Central Lobby, where I understand that there is adequate room for them to do so and, indeed, on neutral ground.

Mr. Stephen Ross (Isle of Wight) Thank God there are only two days left.

Examples: Godforsaken

THE EARL OF WEMYSS

HL Deb 16 July 1901 vol 97 cc551-69

I refer to the Admiralty because that is one of the most deplorable buildings ever seen in this country, and you have thrown away one of the best sites. You had, opposite, the Treasury building, that beautiful pedimented building; all you had to do was to put up a similar building on the other side. Instead of that you put this God-forsaken, nondescript thing, which is a disgrace to London.

HL Deb 26 June 1973 vol 343 cc1840-969

LORD THOMAS

I know that Maplin—or Foulness, to give it its more properly descriptive title—is a God-forsaken place as it stands; beautiful in its loneliness would grant, but not a good place for contractual development, and we shall find that the ten-year period needed before it is anywhere near completion will soon be exhausted.

HC Deb 28 March 1901 vol 92 cc95-163

MR. LABOUCHERE

If the French were to vanquish us, and if we were to be told, after being harried and having our houses all burned down, that we were to receive a little sum of money out of the French Treasury, and that we must thank God that we were going to have occasion to cease to be Englishmen to become Frenchmen, we would not consider the terms liberal.

In order to meet that, what does the Colonial Secretary propose to do? He sent out a Commission to discover whether South Africa was a fitting place for English colonists. Probably anybody on this side of the House could have told, him that a more God-forsaken place for English colonists did not exist

HC Deb 13 July 1978 vol 953 cc1895-906

Mr. Nicholas Fairbairn (Kinross and West Perthshire) There is one point that I want to make, Mr. Deputy Speaker upon the Bill. The national debt, as I understand it, was created in the year 1694. Two hundred and eighty years later, in 1974, after two and a half centuries of war and two world wars, it had reached £40,000 million. But it took only four years of this god-forsaken, dreadful Government to double it. It is now £80,000 million.

Mr. Fairbairn But I also happen to represent those who live in an area of 8,000 square miles, which is one and a half times the size of Northern Ireland. Before Labour Members make silly remarks let them reflect on that. But thank God that I represent those people. I represent one-thousandth of the people of this country.

HC Deb 05 May 1978 vol 949 cc715-24

Mr. Fairbairn

The Bill is saying that the Minister shall have, by arbitrary decision—or on advice, if he cares to put it that way, by some Godforsaken tribunal of his creation—the power to say that the conduct or behaviour of a person on one occasion is a 723 reason for him to declare that that person shall no longer be entitled to do his job

HC Deb 11 July 1978 vol 953 cc1445-67

Mr. Pardoe

Why have the Government suddenly changed their mind? We shall want some firm comment about that from the Chief Secretary, because he is supposed to be in charge of the Inland Revenue—though it is a God-forsaken job to have, I must say.

Thursday, 8 October 2015

Our Bailiff, Who Art in the States





















Deputy Tadier had said that there was some hypocrisy in the States Chamber. He said that if Jesus were alive today he would not be at the Conservative Party conference - he would be standing up for the little guy.

The Bailiff told him that the remark fell foul of rules against "offensive, objectionable or unparliamentary language" and told him to withdraw it, but the Deputy refused. Mr Bailhache told him to leave the Chamber - prompting Deputy Tadier to say that the Bailiff was abusing his own powers.



Bailiwick Express

The Assembly voted to adjourn the meeting for an hour and when they returned Mr Tadier was allowed to continue his speech without apologising or withdrawing it.

BBC News


The Bailiff, William Bailhache is clearly rather out of touch and presumably has not read any House of Commons debates since the time of Queen Victoria.

I say that because he said that mention of Jesus was not "parliamentary" and would be offensive to Christians, later clarified to "offensive to some".

Now if he is going to make statements about "offensive, objectionable or unparliamentary language" with regard to the name of Jesus Christ, he could at least do his homework, and review the situation in the Mother of Parliaments, that of the United Kingdom.

I have spent about an hour looking through past Hansard speeches, and I can say categorically that it is taken as a quite acceptable part of the cut and thrust of Parliamentary debate.

Had Mr Bailhache done his homework, he would have seen that there are a good many comments, both in the Commons, and made by the noble Lords in their Chamber, which refer to Jesus, sometimes in very much the same fashion as Deputy Tadier. The Speakers in the Commons have never intervened or told the member of Parliament that those comments "would be offensive to some" and should be withdrawn.

One can only hope that the appointment of Dr Mark Egan – a chief clerk from the House of Commons - as the new Greffier will mean that William Bailhache can at last be enlightened as to what is acceptable as parliamentary language, and desist from imposing his own personal prejudices upon the States.

Clearly the present Greffier, Michael De La Haye, with whom the Bailiff conferred, has also not kept up to date with of what is "parliamentary" in the House of Commons.

I say "kept up to date", but in fact I can see the mention of Jesus in Parliamentary debates going back at least as far as the 1960s. If the States are to look to Erskine May, as the Greffier informed me they do, then they should certainly also look to established precedent in speeches in the Commons.

The States Chamber should not be a place in which a Bailiff, acting as speaker (although unelected), use his position to make interventions in a way which would be thought unthinkable in the House of Commons.

This has many of the hallmarks of the kind of mistaken intervention that Bailiff Frank Erault made when effectively banning the Life of Brian, which led to the setting up of a Bailiff's Panel, as it was judged that such arbitrary powers should not be subject to the whim of one individual.

Here is a small selection of many showing that back in the 1970s such language was acceptable, as it was even in the 1990s and also is today.

HC Deb 18 December 1972 vol 848 cc927-91

Sir E. Brown

He claimed: We had to push the unions from below. They were reluctant to have the strike. Only the weight of feeling we uncovered forced the strike to escalate. Let me quote Lou Lewis. Do right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite know him? He is a carpenter—

Mr. Skinner: So was Jesus Christ.

Sir E. Brown Yes, but he was on the other side.

HC Deb 02 May 1973 vol 855 cc1337-96

If the Price Commission goes on in the lamentable way in which it has started, I can see the day coming when the present chairman will write a book like that written by Mr. Aubrey Jones about the Prices and Incomes Board, showing that everybody was wrong but Mr. Aubrey Jones—"There goes Jesus Christ; everyone else was to blame." If he had only been allowed a free hand, he would have solved all our problems——

Mr. Heffer: We all know what happened to Jesus Christ.

HC Deb 27 July 1976 vol 916 cc399-483
Mr. Canavan

I frankly do not believe that those who religiously abstain from alcohol on Sunday have a monopoly of belief in God or a monopoly of belief in Christianity or any other religion. Even Jesus Himself turned the water into wine. Perhaps the Reverend and hon. Member for Belfast. South (Mr. Bradford) can quote me the Biblical reference and tell me whether He did it on the Sabbath or not. Even if He did not perform that particular miracle on the Sabbath, I am sure that Jesus Himself must have had many a drink on the Sabbath day.

Mr. James Dempsey (Coatbridge and Airdrie) Is my hon. Friend aware that when Jesus changed the water into wine, it was ginger wine?

Mr. Canavan: I was not aware of that I should have thought that Jesus has more taste than that.

HC Deb 16 March 1990 vol 169 cc795-850
Mr. Harry Greenway (Ealing, North)

Too often, Churches and Church leaders simply engage in political diatribes which are useless and unhelpful for families, who want leadership, saying, "Let us have an end to easy divorce and let us put children first in marriage and in every way." That is what Jesus taught. He was not concerned with the illegal immigrant who broke the law 15 times and was expected to be deported from a church in Manchester back to Sri Lanka. That was not the business of the bishop of Manchester, who should be teaching his flock the word of God, the gospel and how that relates to family life, and the relationship of the broad family of God with the nuclear and wider family.

HC Deb 21 May 1992 vol 208 cc509-60
Mr. Brian Sedgemore (Hackney, South and Shoreditch)

As a nation, we bask in the unconscious realisation of our effortless superiority. Whether or not it is true that Jesus was born in Bethlehem—and we doubt it—we know that God is an Englishman, and that, had we not become a secular society He, God, would have gone to Maastricht on our behalf and pulled down the temples of Europe.

HC Deb 01 July 1993 vol 227 cc1120-32
Mr. Rooker

Sheffield student union organises help for 26 local campaigns, such as Crisis at Christmas. Is it political to provide breakfast in the cathedral? It may be nasty party politics to Tory Ministers, but it is what Jesus Christ would have done.

HC Deb 26 May 1993 vol 225 cc949-1014
Mr. Morgan

I recall the words of a Texas senator when the question first arose as to whether Spanish should be taught in the primary schools of San Antonio, near the Mexican border. He said that if the English language was good enough for Jesus Christ it should be good enough for the Texas school board.

Thursday, 23 April 2009

Bailiff's Role in the States

This article is by the late Sir Peter Crill, and it is of interest in connection with the forthcoming review of the Bailiff's role in the States. It gives a good background summary of the Bailiff's role, powers and history. One curious feature (of which I was completely ignorant) was as follows:

 

The Bailiff has the right, if he and the Deputy Bailiff are unable to preside over the States, to nominate a Member or Officer of the States to act for him. This does not happen very frequently because in a non-party Chamber most Members wish to speak in all but the most routine of debates, and the President of the House has only a casting vote which, by custom, he uses in order to enable the States to debate the matter again during another sitting

 

Philip Rondel tells me he remembers both Dick Shenton and Jean le Maistre have taken the Chair in the past - he has a better memory than me! Another correction - Ed Le Quesne tells me Jersey now relates to the UK through the Justice Department, not the Home Office, since Jack Straw split that off as a separate department.

 

The Ancient Role Of The Bailiffs Of Guernsey And Jersey As "Speakers"

By Peter Crill (1992)

 

The Presiding Officers of the States in the Channel islands came to the Chair by a completely different route from their Commonwealth counterparts. The office of Speaker  in Parliament is, of course, an ancient and honourable one which is well understood in the United Kingdom. It was exported, along with other parliamentary institutions, to the English colonies and took root in the local legislatures, sometimes strongly, sometimes tenuously, but it flourished and survived, and a recent Conference of Speakers and Presiding Officers of the Commonwealth testified to its strength today.

 

A different path to democracy.

 

The Channel Islands of Jersey and Guernsey, however, whilst within the British Isles but outside the United Kingdom, have never been colonies and their geographical position, and early poor communications between England and the Islands, meant that for many years parliamentary institutions and practices were hardly known to the insular Legislatures which, evolving over the centuries, are called the States, a name which they have borne for over four hundred years. It is not surprising that this was so because, originally, the Islands were part of the Duchy of Normandy and remained so until the Duchy became separated from England when King John lost his continental possession in 1204. Norman institutions survived in form because the origins of parliamentary democracy in the Islands were different. The name of the Speaker is not to be found in any statute of standing order of the States of Jersey or Guernsey.

 

The States evolved from the much more ancient Royal Court which had consisted only of the Bailiff and twelve elected Jurés-Justiciers (Jurats). In the course of time the Royal Court, in Jersey, enlisted the help of the twelve Rectors and Connétables first as advisers and eventually as members. This increased assembly became known as Les États (the States), the present legislative chamber. All permanent legislation (projets de loi) passed by the States still has to be registered in the Royal Court after sanction by the Crown in Council.

 

That symbol of parliamentary sovereignty, the Mace, given by the House of Commons to several early fledgling Parliaments in the Commonwealth, has been carried before the Bailiffs of Jersey since 1663, when it was given to the Bailiff of that time by Charles II, but with a difference, It is not the Speaker's Mace. It is the Bailiff's Mace, and it is carried before him, not only when he presides over the States, hut when he sits as Chief Justice in the Royal Court. Guernsey did not enjoy Royal favour after the Civil War of the seventeenth century because it took the parliamentary side; therefore it does not have a similar Royal Mace

 

Royal connections

 

It may be helpful, before examining the Bailiff's role as Presiding Officer of the States, briefly to outline some salient parts of the Channel Islands' constitutional history.

 

The Islands consist of two Bailiwicks, Guernsey and Jersey, and each has its own smaller dependencies. Jersey and Guernsey are not independent states, but dependencies of the Crown, which exercises its paramountcy through the appointments of its Lieutenant-Governors and the other Crown Officers: the Bailiffs, the Deputy Bailiffs, the Attornies-General, and the Solicitors-General. Yet, whilst the Crown is ultimately responsible for the good government of the Bailiwicks, both of them have a high degree of internal self-government, subject to the sanction of permanent Bills by the Crown in Privy Council.

 

Originally the Crown exercised its legislative powers in the Islands by means of prerogative Orders-in-Council. In 1970, the States of Jersey submitted to the Crowther, later Kilbrandon, Royal Commission, which was charged inter alia with the examination of the constitutional and economic relationships of the, Islands (and the Isle of Man) with the United Kingdom, that the prerogative Order-in-Council had fallen into disuse. That claim was resisted by the Home Office in its memorandum to the Royal Commission. It used to be the Sovereign's principal Secretary of State who advised the Crown on the  Islands and following the creation in 1804 of the Colonial Office the Islands remained under the aegis of the Home Office. It is the Home Secretary as a Privy Councillor who exercises, through his Department, the oversight of the Channel islands and who advises the Queen whether to assent to Bills sent up for sanction. There is a convention that, although the Crown in Parliament may legislate for the Islands, it does not do so in domestic matters, which include taxation,

 

On the statute books

 

An interesting résumé of the origins of the laws of Jersey in particular is to be found in an English case of a debtor (reported at 1980 2 All E.R. Chancery Division) as regards the Royal prerogative in the Channel Islands, At page 671, Goulding, J. says this:

 

Council for the debtor emphasised the reference to the Crown's sovereignty in right of Normandy, and said that therefore the Channel Islands are not possessions of the British Crown at all. It is, however, far too late today, whatever may have been the position during the lives of the Conqueror's soils, to think of England and Jersey as connected by a mere personal union of Crowns, like Great Britain and Hanover before the accession of Queen Victoria. The legislative authority of the Parliament at Westminster and the appellate jurisdiction of the Privy Council are testimony to the contrary, As long ago as the middle of the seventeenth century, Sir Matthew Hale concluded a discussion of the Royal prerogative as to the Channel Islands with the sentence: "And now by long usage these islands are annexed unto the Crown of England, and though not infra regnam dominium regnisui Angliae".

 

Officers in the States

 

After the loss of continental Normandy, the English Kings retained the Channel Islands as part of their possessions and they were finally annexed to the English Crown by Henry II. To govern the Islands, the Kings appointed a Warden, or Governor, who had both military and civil powers. Eventually Guernsey and Jersey each had a Governor and they in turn appointed Bailiffs to act under them to attend to civil affairs.

 

Since 1495, the Bailiffs have been appointed by the Crown. In the time of King John there came into being the office of Jurat - the nearest modern equivalent approximates to a Justice of the Peace, but the analogy must not be pressed too far. As was states in a recent judgement in the Jersey Court of Appeal: "The Jurats number on only twelve and they are chosen to administer justice in this island on the basis that they will bring knowledge, experience and independence to their important office". The Jurats declared, sometimes with the King's Justices in Eyre, what the common law was. The Jurats, with the Bailiff and eventually with the Rectors and Constables of the twelve ancient Parishes, and popularly elected Deputies from the middle of the nineteenth century, acted as legislators and administrators

 

The final change (is there ever any final change in political evolution?) came in 1948 when the Jurats and Rectors were removed from the States, partly by their own votes, and the States of Jersey now consists of twelve island-elected Senators, twelve Constables and twenty-nine Deputies, together with the Dean, the Attorney-General and the Solicitor-General, all three of whom have the right to speak but not to vote.

 

It is over this body that the Bailiff now presides as his predecessors did over earlier bodies for many years. Thus the office and its functions are well understood and accepted by the Islanders.

 

Differences in the Chamber

 

The Bailiff, therefore, as Presiding Officer over the States, is nominated and not elected, but he presides over the Assembly, acting partly under standing orders and partly, where they do not cover a particular situation, by his own judgement and intuition. Erskine May [Treatise on the Law, Privileges, Proceedings and Usage of Parliament] is available and consulted, but the vast body of rulings by the Speaker of the House of Commons is too large for all his or her rulings to be applicable to a small Chamber consisting of fifty-three independent Members. Although not elected it is now accepted that, in advising the Queen as to who should be Bailiff, the Home Office has to be satisfied, by informal soundings, that the candidate would be acceptable to the island.

 

Unlike the House of Commons, prayers in the States are said in public, and also the roll call is taken in public. Again in contrast with most Legislatures, the Bailiff remains seated throughout, except for prayers and when reading, for example, a Royal communication or rising to obtain order when exhortations have failed.

 

The Crown's executive powers are retained in the veto – over matters affecting the Crown's interests - of the Lieutenant-Governor who has a seat in the States but no vote and, traditionally, speaks only on his retirement. As a result of earlier squabbles over jurisdiction between Governor and Bailiff, the Bailiff's seat in the States Chamber and in the Royal Court is higher than that of the Lieutenant-Governor.

 

Role of the Bailiff

 

The Bailiff has a right of dissent under an Order-in-Council of 1786 but since given statutory recognition. It suspends the operation of measures which the Bailiff considers the States are not empowered to pass until the Crown in Council has considered and allowed them.

 

The Bailiff has the right, if he and the Deputy Bailiff are unable to preside over the States, to nominate a Member or Officer of the States to act for him. This does not happen very frequently because in a non-party Chamber most Members wish to speak in all but the most routine of debates, and the President of the House has only a casting vote which, by custom, he uses in order to enable the States to debate the matter again during another sitting

 

The Bailiff is available to any Member to assist in drawing up propositions, or advising on procedure. Sometimes he chairs a meeting of senior Members on general matters arising out of earlier debates, such as the Order Paper for the next sitting. He is the channel of communication between the insular authorities and the Lieutenant-Governor who, in turn, transmits the official views of the States to the Home Office. In addition to his duties as Presiding Officer, the Bailiff is called upon as civil head of the Island to represent it at a number of official functions in both the Island and the United Kingdom. On important  matters of policy, for example civil aviation, he is expected to lead delegations for discussions with the Home Office and other Ministries. To some extent, therefore, his duties in relation to his position as Presiding Officer are fuller than merely acting as a Speaker. Moreover, he is the President of the Court of Appeal and Chief Justice of the Royal Court, which roughly corresponds to the High Court.

 

His position in relation to his dual functions - judicial and legislative, but not administrative - was examined by two Royal Commissions, firstly in 1946, and then the one I have mentioned, the Crowther Commission, in 1969: no recommendations were made for any change, mainly because there had been no representations to that end by the States or people in the Island.

 

Thus the Bailiff, qua Speaker, has extensive powers, but he must be careful to exercise them constitutionally and in accordance with the well-established constraints of his office.

 

 

Thursday, 1 January 2009

Civil emergency - try again later in 2009

Isn't it frustrating? It has gone midnight, you have adjusted for the leap second, and you send off a text to a friend, only to get the message:

"Message Sending Failed: Try Again Later".

To some extent, this is an expected event, after all peak texts are going out. But what if there was a civil emergency, and the jolly Jersey Telecoms network simply went into the same kind of meltdown?

I remember - not just because of lines - a flakey cable phone system in 1987, after the great storm had hit Jersey with hurricane force winds. The land line would work, then be busy, then work. Tonight I got through on a land line to a mobile for around 3 minutes, which was enough to say "Happy New Year" before the network decided to disconnect me.

After 9/11, the BBC internet news was swamped and went under. Sky was the only internet news still functioning and available. The BBC learnt a lesson, and put in better internet servers and modem connections, and was not swamped when the London bombings took place. Jersey Telecoms has never had to face that kind of emergency, thank goodness, and I hope that it does not. But I do wonder how well the infrastructure would cope with a major emergency.

Not to end on a sombre note, but a quizzical one, no one seemed bothered with the masses of fireworks shooting into the sky over the Thames. It is a shame that Terry MacDonald could not have been allowed to set off some of his over St Aubin's bay for the New Year.

And I would also like to take the chance to wish the Bailiff well. Earlier this evening, I was asked (at dinner) why I didn't like him. I have to say that I positively adore him! For a satirist, someone who produces gobbets of material at the drop of a hat (or an official speech) is a godsend, and I'd be at a loss without him. If I ever met him, I would certainly thank him, and tell him to keep it up! I can also only hope that some of the new intake of States Members can fill the void left by the departing ones, and judging from one of this weeks JEPs, I'd say James Reed is promising.

Putting my historical hat on, readers may be interested to note that the Scottish New Year celebrations are not very ancient pagan (although the Roman world did have its celebration), but date from the Reformation. The Puritans in charge in Scotland frowned on a religious day - Christmas - being subject to frivolity, but they had no objection to fun and games on a non-religious day. The canny Scots moved the celebrations for Christmas to the New Year instead!

Anyhow, wishing all my readers a very happy new year! Unless you are in America, in which case, happy 2009 in around five to eight hours!

Book of the post:
Stations of the Year by Ronald Hutton

Wednesday, 16 July 2008

Not a Resigning Matter

Sir Thomas More: You threaten like a dockside bully.
Cromwell: How should I threaten?
Sir Thomas More: Like a minister of state. With justice.
Cromwell: Oh, justice is what you're threatened with.
Sir Thomas More: Then I am not threatened.
(A Man for All Seasons, Robert Bolt)

Bailiff beats no confidence vote

I'm not surprised about this - a proposition to the States "that they have no confidence in the Bailiff as President of the States, and to agree that Her Majesty be requested to dismiss him from office."

The grounds were flimsy in the least. With regard to the Roger Holland affair, the bailiff, Sir Philip Bailhache, has already admitted he should not have allowed Roger Holland to join the honorary police in 1992

I am afraid that it is easy to be wise after the event. My decision in 1992 not to refer the election of Roger Holland as a Constable's Officer back to the Royal Court was made in good faith on the basis of the facts known to me at that time. With hindsight it is certainly possible to say that a different decision ought to have been made, particularly given the harm done to the victims of some of his assaults. We owe it to those victims to make sure that the Island is alert to the problems which arose, and to ensure that they do not arise again.

That is about as close as a lawyer can get to saying (1) I've made a mistake (2) I will see that it doesn't happen again. Let's be realistic about it! It is probably in part why the appointment of one Centenier in St Brelade was questioned because he had a thirty-year old offense of theft from a school canteen (and nothing since) - the message being we will not mess up again.

There was no evidence that he has in any way failed in his judicial role, as attested by a recent letter in the JEP by Advocate Charles Thacker (president of the Law Society of Jersey). Although it would be interesting to know what Advocate Sinel might have said about the Cantrade scandal, and the Bailiff's role in that. But Shona Pitman didn't bring that much more interesting matter up.

Regarding the Liberation Day speech, the topic was a gross miscalculation by both Sir Philip and Frank Walker, and as I've said before, people I know who were here during the Occupation (I'm not quite that old) were pretty disgusted with it, especially saying that the child abuse is not as bad as media reporting of Jersey . He should have apologised for that. A greater man would. He also blundered into the political arena when he said that "Senior politicians, should know better than to attempt to subvert public confidence in our judicial institutions in pursuit of a personal agenda." as it was clear he was pursuing his own agenda.

I don't know why everyone is going on about dismissals and so-and-so should resign, as if they expect them to do just that. We've had calls for Mike Pollard, the Bailliff, Frank Walker, the Council of Ministers and old Uncle Tom Cobbley and all to resign. People just don't resign like that despite the belief that somehow they should and if enough people vote on blogs they will see that and go.

This is apparent if you look at here and Guernsey. Over here - Gerald Voisin had to be voted out, he would not resign. In Guernsey, over Fallagate, Laurie Morgan refused to resign, and was only removed when his Council of Ministers resigned completely.

Reasons people resign:

a) Financial

Jeffry Archer resigned - an embarrassing bankruptcy forced him to give up a seat in the House of Commons. In recent times, two ministers accused of taking cash in return for asking questions resigned.

b) Sexual scandal

Mark Oaten resigned from the Lib Dem leadership election. His departure appeared to be because he had failed to attract enough support from within the parliamentary party (he was backed by two MPs). Two days later the News of the World revealed he had a relationship with a male prostitute a year earlier.

c) Political Rows

Michael Heseltine resigned from his cabinet job after a row with Thatcher over the Westland affair. Heseltine thought his views on the future of the helicopter company were being ignored and stormed out of No 10.

d) Knowingly Lying (and being caught out)

Profumo's sexual relationship with Keeler and his false statements to the House of Commons regarding its nature led to Profumo's resignation.

e) Criminal Matters

For example Peter Hain, Jonathan Aitken

I'm sure there are others, but my main point is that very few Jersey politicians or Chief civil servants can be shown to have come under any of those headings, and despite suspicions (for example about lying) there is no hard evidence to support their critics.

Why do we need strong evidence? I'll finish with one of my favourite quotations from Robert Bolt's A Man for All Seasons, which says it all:

William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

Thursday, 19 June 2008

Referendum on Triviality

Central European Time Referendum: Jersey is holding it's first ever referendum.

The States want to know whether islanders would like to adopt central European time. That means the island would be an hour ahead of the United Kingdom and Guernsey. The proposer Senator Jimmy Perchard believes in time they will also shift their clocks.

The States will still make the final decision following the referendum on 15th October - the same day as the Senatorial elections.


http://www5.channelonline.tv/news/templates/jerseynews2.aspx?articleid=15213&zoneid=1

This is the recent news on Channel TV tonight!

When one considers that Shona Pitman submitted a proposition to the Bailiff last year which asked for a referendum to be held to engage the public's view on whether or not the Chief Minister should be directly elected by his/her electorate, we can see that referendums can be held on the kind of matter than doesn't really matter (except to cause major confusion between Jersey and the UK and Guernsey, mess up radio signal clocks etc etc)

The Bailiff subsequently ruled the Shona's proposition out of order for the following reasons -

'the election by the public of the Chief Minister would in my view confuse a ministerial system of government with a presidential-type system. The Chief Minister must, in our current system of government, enjoy the confidence of the majority of elected members of the States. To have the Chief Minister elected by popular vote might involve the election of a person who did not enjoy that confidence. In such a state of affairs a paralysis of government could follow. I do not think that one can fairly invite the public to vote upon a question which would lead to a constitutionally unworkable system'.(E-mail - 8/1/07).

So much for the idea that the Bailiff does not intervene in the political process. This is clearly a political decision by the Bailiff, and a unilateral one at that! To say that the Bailiff is outside the political process, and is purely a "speaker" to bring order to the Chamber is therefore disingenuous.

Look at the implications too - we can have a chief minister who does not have the support of the majority of the electorate, but is still voted in by the States.

To paraphrase the Bailiff: To have the Chief Minister elected by the States in this manner does not give confidence in democracy in this Island. In such a state of affairs apathy and cynicism of voters who have been ignored could follow.

Accordingly, the proposition did not go to the States. Instead she tried for the following this year: to agree in principle that any candidate for the position of Senator, Connétable or Deputy should be required, at the time of his or her nomination for the position, to make a public declaration if he or she intends to stand for the post of Chief Minister after the election;

It didn't get through, of course.

POUR: 6 CONTRE: 37 OUT OF ISLAND: 1 EN DEFAUT: 1 NOT PRESENT: 8
Deputy Peter Nicholas Troy
Deputy Judith Ann Martin
Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern
Deputy Patrick John Dennis Ryan
Deputy Shona Pitman
Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst

Now instead, thanks to Senator Jim Perchard, we have a referendum on trivialities, a kind of token referendum which shows that they can take place, and you - members of the public - are being asked, so don't say we don't consult you. Of course, when it comes to the really serious issues, forget it! They don't want to know!


Thursday, 29 May 2008

The Bailiff and the Actress

"Are you looking for something prominent, with iconic frontage, perhaps rising to twin peaks?" said the actress to the Bailiff about the national art gallery.

Well, I know the old set of jokes has to do with a bishop and an actress, but as the bailiff is again speaking out on behalf of his idée fixe, the "national" art gallery, the idea of linking him with a performer of the arts is irresistible. Although surely "island" would be more modest - is Jersey a nation? Last time I checked it was not, but if St Helier is to become a city (as has been mooted), perhaps the Island can become a nation. Delusions of grandeur, methinks.

Channel TV lead with this story:

Jersey's Bailiff has repeated his call for a national art gallery.

Sir Philip Bailihache made his appeal at the launch of a street art exhibition yesterday.

Standing under a copy of one of the island's most famous paintings, 'The Death of Major Pierson', Sir Philip said 'art is for everyone. It's not elitist.'

He believes the money for the building can easily be found, and that many islanders would willing put their paintings on show. He also believes many national and international galleries would lend pictures.

In "The Middle Class Rip-Off, an episode of Yes Minister, it is noted that those saying the arts are for everyone are really asking for a subsidy for their own self-indulgence. I do wonder if that is what is going on here. And of course, there is also that grand patronising attitude, where Sir Humprey says:

Sir Humphrey: Bernard, subsidy is for art... for culture. It is not to be given to what the people want: it is for what the people don't want but ought to have!

Personally, when facilities for young people are seriously deficient, if non-existent, and when school milk is being curtailed (mainly because of Philip Ozouf's apparent need for something like a promotional tour of India), we need other things far more than an art gallery. When can we get a Bailiff who will address social issues and their remedies?

Instead, it is people like Nicholas France, the Catholic Dean of Jersey, who highlights the poor housing with high rental that many people are forced to live in, and provides the impetus for the Welcome Centre next door to St Thomas Church, which like Communicare, is open to the community - and if Sir Philip cared to look inside, also displays art for visitors to the centre to see, to brighten lives at the same time and not instead of addressing the needs of the community.

Would the Good Samaritan supply the wounded man with aid, or an art gallery?




The Welcome Centre
A Place of welcome for all communities living in Jersey. ·

A lively café selling coffee, tea, cakes, soups, snacks and lunches · Language Classes - English for foreign students, beginners and advanced. ·
The Sir John Cheshire Art Gallery, exhibiting paintings by local and international artists. ·Shop, selling cards and gifts. ·
Migrant-worker advice centre. ·
A surgery for housing estates' tenants

The Society of St. Vincent de Paul (SVP)

Turning concern into action The Centre is also home to the office of St. Helier Conference of he SVP, which provides practical help to people in need, regardless of religious affiliation, by way of assistance with food, clothing, furniture and non-judgmental listening ear.

Tuesday, 13 May 2008

Conflicts of Interest: An Interesting Retrospective

An older story. The case of the defrauded investors, and Sinel's battle to get them compensation. What is interesting is the same themes arising, with regard to (1) the bias of the internal press (2) conflicts of interest with regard to the Bailiff's position (3) the dismissive kind of remarks that the Bailiff made then to the defrauded protestors.

I would note in fairness that the site in question tends to take a very polemic view against the Channel Islands as "tax havens" which I personally do not subscribe to. However, Sinel's letter is specifically related to a specific case, and improving the judicial system.

It also highlights in detail (I only give snippets, check the link for Sinel's letter the conflicts of interest which occur without a separation of powers. We hear a lot about it being important. This letter is important because it details what can happen - and did happen - if there is no separation of powers.

The JEP

Sinel addressed the matter of "free speech" and the media. He complimented the professionalism of the "external" media, but accused Jersey's only daily paper, the Jersey Evening Post, of not being objective and "points out that it is controlled by Senator Frank Walker, Chairman of the bank regulatory committee (the FEC/FSC) which, not surprisingly in Jersey, is also responsible for the promotion of the island's finance industry. "

The Bailiff

Among the many judgments and remarks he has given against the interests of the defrauded investors in the Cantrade Fraud, The Bailiff once dismissively referred to them as "a small band of protestors".

http://visar.csustan.edu/aaba/sinel1.htm

Sinel's letter on the subject notes:

It has long been the hallmark of civilised societies that the legislature and executive are kept completely isolated from the judiciary. It is not necessary for me to explain to you or any of the recipients of this letter why we need and indeed should have had a long time ago a separation of powers. It is perhaps easy for people in our position to assume that the public neither know nor care why this should be so. I am not a politician, however, 1 have had the opportunity over the last few years to discuss with many ordinary members of the public the defect in the Island's constitution to which 1 have just referred. Vernon Tomes had a landslide victory at the penultimate Senatorial hustings; one of the main planks of his election campaign was the separation of the judiciary from the legislature. One of the most important functions of the English judicial system is to prevent the oppression of the people by the government, clearly it cannot do so or be seen to do so where the very same individuals sit astride both horses, this is a very real matter of concern to ordinary litigants.

Then he gave a clear example of how this conflict of interest played out:

When the Finance and Economics Committee decided not to investigate Cantrade, a decision (which it has since maintained notwithstanding the fact that Cantrade has been convicted of criminal offences in relation to its forex dealings), it sought and obtained advice from the Attorney General. The Attorney General not only apparently advised the FEC not to investigate citing in part the fact that it would be a major undertaking to investigate a subsidiary of the Union Bank of Switzerland" but he continued to give advice to the Finance and Economics Committee whilst at the same time overseeing the purported investigation and prosecution of Cantrade in respect of the Plaintiffs' allegations of criminal offences arising from precisely the same facts which gave rise to the Plaintiff s request to the Finance and Economics Committee to investigate the activities of Cantrade.

The Attorney General's conflict of interest was at that stage at least to the Plaintiff's minds manifest and apparent. The continued attempted exculpation of the Finance and Economics Committee by the Attorney General is believed by the Plaintiffs', many of their investors and certain other third parties to have formed at least part of the motivation behind his alleged failure to prosecute inter alia Cantrade and its officers adequately or at all.

When the Plaintiffs' pointed out what they perceived to be the Attorney General's conflict of interest they were informed that in future the representation of the Finance and Economics Committee would be undertaken by the Solicitor General. Whatever comfort the Plaintiffs' might have derived from this development was rapidly negated by the actions of the Solicitor General which proved beyond per adventure, that not only was there no attempt at a Chinese wall internally, but that the files maintained by the Attorney General in relation to the prosecution of inter alia Cantrade were available to the Solicitor General who made free use of the information there available for the general purpose of defending the Finance and Economics Committee's failure to investigate Cantrade and for the specific purpose of attempting to demonstrate that the Plaintiffs' allegations of criminal malfeasance by Cantrade and Young were questionable.



Mr Hamon, whose name also crops up in connection with informal advice given to Jack Hydes in the Jervis-Dykes case, also makes an appearance, he read the minutes of a confidential meeting between Sinel's clients and the police:

I turn now to the actions of the presiding Judge Mr Hamon on that same date. Not only did Mr Hamon allow the Solicitor General to read aloud the minute of the meeting of 12th September 1995, but having had the origins of that minute explained to him, he went on to publicise same by including that minute in his written judgment. The Plaintiffs' and their advisers still fail to comprehend how this publication facilitated in any way the administration of justice. At that same hearing, Mr Hamon told the Plaintiffs' counsel [i.e. me], that 1 could not make submission which involved criticisms of the Attorney General and the discharge by him of the functions of his office.


Finally, Sinel comments on the Bailiff making a speech which also showed how the conflict of interest played out:

The culmination of the Plaintiffs' disquiet was a series of recusal applications founded initially upon the absence of a separation of powers and subsequently upon the content of a more than unfortunate speech given by the Bailiff to the Society of Chartered and Certified Accountants, on the 16th day of November 1996.

In a country where there was a de facto separation of powers it would have been inconceivable that such a speech would have been given by a sitting judge. One can argue as to what exactly the speech meant but the facts are undeniable. Namely that a sitting judge opined publicly in relation to criticism made of the Island, by Plaintiffs' in proceedings before its Courts, which proceedings were founded upon the same substantive facts which gave rise to the criticisms made of the Island. One can see why the head of Jersey's legislature might make such a speech but no judge should have done so.

Monday, 21 April 2008

Separation of Powers

Just back from Guernsey, and I noticed from the Sark coverage that the Barclays are arguing for separation of powers, that the Seneschal should not be both Chief Pleas president and Island Judge. Rather like the role of the Bailiff in Jersey, methinks! The Barclays have asked Jack Straw for a judicial review of the situation. If changes have to be made, will it set a precedent for both Jersey and Guernsey?

I have heard the counter-argument that in a small community - and it was Jersey in this case - there has to be some doubling up of roles. But Sark is an even smaller community, so if that does not apply there, so much stronger would be the case in Jersey.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3671993.ece

In London last week the Privy Council finally approved a Bill that will see a Chief Pleas of landowners replaced by a 28-member assembly elected by universal suffrage in December. The Barclays were still not happy, however. They immediately requested a judicial review because the Seigneur and the unelected Seneschal – the Chief Pleas president who doubles as the island's judge – will retain considerable powers.

Tuesday, 25 March 2008

Forgiveness of Island Sins

I was trying to explain the concept of "forgiveness of sins" and some aspects of Christianity to some non-Christians the other day.

There were a few easy matters, for example, the Easter idea, mentioned in the creed that Jesus "is seated at the right hand of God". That is metaphorical language, and a local example would be to say that a "high-up official" in Jersey would not necessarily be found on the top floor of Cyril Le Marquand House!

Forgiveness of sins, however, is a very strange idea. How can one person somehow take away the sins of many others? There is no definite understanding of that in history, only various people's attempts to come up with analogies which help to point the way. For what it is worth, here is a modern one, which is presented in a dialogue.

What has happened in Australia recently?

The Prime Minister has issued an apology on behalf of the Australian government and people, for the policies that were in practice against the aboriginal peoples.

How has this been received?

For the most part, with satisfaction that something has at last been done.

Is the Prime Minister guilty of any of these practices?

No, and he was probably also born after they were dismantled.

So he is completely innocent of these offences?

Yes

How then, can he offer apologies to the aboriginal peoples? He is just one man.

Because of who he is, because of the unique position he has, as Prime Minister, he can take on this role, and offer apologies on behalf of others.

Has everyone been happy with this?

No, a few have rejected his apology.

That, in a nutshell, is one way of looking at forgiveness of sins, how one individual can stand in for many, even though innocent himself. Of course, the analogy should not be pushed too far, but it does supply a good way of looking at things, without any convoluted religious terminology.

Why have I headed this blog, forgiveness of Island Sins?

Because, curiously, what has happened in Australia, that kind of model, does not seem to apply to Jersey over the child abuse case at Haut de la Garenne. Time and again those in a position to offer an apology, the Chief Minister, the Bailiff, have said that it is not necessary, that it is not needed, that there is no need to apologise. They are innocent.

All the more reason, perhaps, why they are in the best position to give such an apology?