Are Pagans More Sexually Open?
My pagan friends suggest that they can be, and in debates I've seen usually Christianity comes in for a bashing. Actually matters are more complex than that. A few historical notes....
The ancient pagan world had many kinds of different beliefs and practices regarding sexuality.
According to Julian the Pagan Emperor, Attis was an orphan left by his mother on the bank of the river. He became a handsome youth, who was in love with Cybele who forbade him to love any other woman. Nevertheless, Attis fell in love with the river nymph Sangaria and had a sexual intercourse with her in a cave. Cybele made him mad, and during this time of madness he castrated himself. Then he was pardoned by Cybele, who caused him to ascend to the celestial worlds.
For the followers of Attis, the highlight of ritual worship for the elect, was to get into an ecstatic frenzy, and then practice self-mutilation of the genitals! One of the few accurate sources in Frazer.
Early Stoicism thought was that sex, like all things, should be in common, and this includes a rejection of marriage and the incest taboo. This changes in Antipater, Hierocles, and Musonius, who argue for heterosexual marriage as the norm. And by Seneca and Epictetus, the pagan Stoic ideal is the celibate male. In fact, where sex does occur, for Musonius and Seneca, it is only all right within marriage, and even then only for the purpose of reproduction.
Moving to early Gnosticism, sex is equated with death. It is part of the material world, and must be avoided at all costs. The later Cathars (of the Middle Ages), who also espoused a form of Gnosticism, saw the "pure" as those renouncing sex, and were vegetarians because they would not eat animals that procreated (except fish, whose method of propagation they thought was spontaneous!)
Returning to ancient paganism, for Plato, sexuality was characterized by mental frenzy as opposed to rationality (Republic 403). The only justification for sexuality to exist at all was for procreation. Therefore, all sexuality outside of marriage should be forbidden by law (Laws 838-9).
The Manichees - an eclectic pagan religion which drew on Gnosticism, Zoroastrianism/Mithraism and Greek paganism, named after its founder Mani, were like the Gnostics, believers that all sex, even in marriage including the birth of children was evil and sinful. Thus celibacy is best. It thrived between the 3rd to 7th centuries.
So I don't think one can blame Christianity for all the woes about sexuality; in fact, one could argue the case that a lot of Christian thinking on the subject was coloured by pagan philosophy, as can be seen by the way in which the "Song of Songs" was sanitised as an allegory, rather than taken as a literal description of erotic love.
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The issue with sex is not being a Pagan or a Christian. The question that really needs to be asked is why are Christians so closed minded about sex and the human naked body.
On itself, sex is neither bad or good. The simplest meaning is male and female. Now to have sex with someone is not a bad thing either. Believe it or not Pagans are more moral then Christians. Everyone knows that the wrong sexual habits can be dangerous. It can happen in marriage and out of marriage.
The attitude of sex is not what one does, but what how one learns. What I mean is if parents do not teach this subject, then children will grow up with the wrong information about sex and the human naked body.
I was not considering modern neopaganism, but the ancient pagans. What is always amusing to me is the way in which, whenever part of ancient paganism - I gave historical sources - check them - gives evidence about pagans who were as closed about sex or more so than Christianity, then that is glossed over, selectively ignored etc. I think probably only modern humanists have a right to throw stones, because they have no claim to any ancient traditions, or to the name once given to such ancient traditions, such as pagan.
Secondly, the idea than ancient pagans were necessarily more moral than Christians is dubious. The Roman empire - a bastion of paganism until Constantine - ran out of wood in AD 70 when it was crucifying the Jews. The Assyrians, Medes, Persians, Goths etc all took a pretty bloodthirsty line in conquest. I've always understood those were also pagans.
Thank for replying to my comment. I have agree that ancient times were not all that moral. The sects like phallic occult was really sexual. From what I read about paganism, most today do not know all that much about ancient religions other then the negatives that Christians and others may gossip about. I do not know if the sects like the phallic occult is pagan or not.
My point in my comment was not to debate how one believes but to state the point that today in the 21st Century, parents needs to teach their children about the human body. It is not for me to judge others, nor did I do so. The human naked body is not bad or good in itself. It is how we use what we have that can make something what it is. Again, thank you for your reply. :D
"The human naked body is not bad or good in itself."
Indeed. There is a very good article in History Today which relates how the first Spanish explorers came to the New World, and what they made of nakedness of the inhabitants.
One part of the debate centered on whether they were truly human, or really some kind of animal, a human-like beast. The other took the view that these people had more of a paradisal state, and drew on the Adam and Eve narratives to support this.
A similar question is posed in James Blish's excellent science fiction work "A Case of Conscience" about a first encounter with an alien species.
Unfortunately, while the peoples were granted status as Spanish citizens, the first narrative lurked around, and gave rise to the same idea that the African races were somehow subnormal, less than human. Hence the term Mongol, for Down's Syndrome - a recession to a backward less evolved race. Often supported by supposedly scientific results and even around today with ideas of IQ, this is exposed in detail in Stephen Jay Gould's "The Mismeasure of Man".
But sexuality can be dangerous, because it is such a powerful instinct, and can be so misused (one has only to look at the way in which porn mags feed into men's images and relationships with women - see "Women's Choices" by Mary Midgeley. Repression and control, Christian or Pagan, is not the answer, but neither must we be unaware of the power of sexuality, and how it can be harnessed and used to manipulate us. That I think is also an important lesson to teach children.
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